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1 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / Introduce yourself here / Goji Fruit: 5 Myths of this Super Fruit

Started by judynale - Last post by judynale on: September 03, 2010, 03:01:51 PM

Goji Fruit: 5 Myths of this Super Fruit


Goji Fruit continues to make headlines, with multiple companies marketing and branding the product as one of the healthiest things that you can eat or dirnk.

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2 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / Introduce yourself here / John C aka oldplodder

Started by oldplodder - Last post by oldplodder on: August 31, 2010, 08:56:06 AM

Bumped into Steve Turner the other day, and it has been a while since I have been to a Forge seminar, or even looked up the web site, so thought it about time I renewed the contact.

Me, I am an old bloke, the grey hair proves that, getting closer to 60 every year, and I have been granted a 2nd epiphany by Jesus.
Became a Christian as a young adult through the mission of some Baptists on the edge of the counter culture movement, and had a few good years with them, as well as a Presbyterian youth group. Early on I had to make up my mind about joining some Christians in the counter culture movement or a local church in Brisbane. I am sure Jesus said the local church would be harder and He was right. But the church has been good to me, taught me to wear shoes to worship, and Jesus found me a good woman to help keep me straight, and I love her dearly.
So 30 years later, after almost dropping out of the church and loosing my faith, raising a family of two good sons, creating a business, Jesus managed to nab me again, and I am back as a follower.
Still involved with the local Uniting Church, but now am part of a house church with young families. The Lord has released me from wearing shoes to church, and my good wife is concerned I am regressing into my old ways. The hair is not enough for a pony tail any more, so it is gone, but still got the beard I had when I became a Christian.  We are calling ourselves grand parents in training. One day we might have our own grand kids so we need some practice. :o)
So I have changed church cultures again, this is now the third, and sort of looking forward (with some hope and trepidation) to see where the Lord leads. Still not easy stepping out in faith, but you got to start some where.

God blesses, John C aka oldplodder (not as fit this time round :o))

3 -  Conversation Space / The 'Missional' conversation / Re: Michael Frost on Being the Missional Church (YouTube video)

Started by Admin - Last post by palpack1 on: August 12, 2010, 10:43:35 AM

Great stuff.  One question.   If a church is really being the gospel of Christ in the community, and they leave or shut down, is it really a biblical concept that they will be terribly missed "to the point of tears" by the community?  When I think of the church in the new testament, or think of Paul's ministry, or John the Baptist, or Peter, or Christ himself, or the Israelites it seems that, yes, there was a minority of the general community who may have missed them.  But on the whole,  the attitude of the community was good riddance.  I see the same today in the virally missional churches of China, Korea, and Africa.   The are persecuted more than missed.  And that is something we are told to expect by Christ.  If all my neighbors think I am wonderful and love to hang out with me, am I really being the salt and light called for in scripture.   

In summary, I agree that traditional bodies of believers need to move far in the direction Michael Frost advocates.  But I don't see a biblical example that combines standing for Christ and being loved and accepted by the general community.   

4 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / Introduce yourself here / YOUR HEARING AID RESOURCES

Started by drodgertz - Last post by drodgertz on: July 30, 2010, 12:25:51 PM

How Do You Cope With The Fact That You Have To Use Hearing Aids? ;)

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5 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / Introduce yourself here / how to get back with ex

Started by 0dom8394 - Last post by 0dom8394 on: July 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM

Men and women think and express themselves very differently.   



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6 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / About this forum / online spileautomaten

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7 -  Conversation Space / 'Frogger' (L Baker) / Table Talk: Part I

Started by Frogger - Last post by Frogger on: May 08, 2010, 08:42:33 AM

Table Talk: Part I
The Placement of the Table

If these walls could talk, I would surely lend my ear. But if our dining table could talk, I’d lend much more, settle in and time could, well, just wait. I have a soft spot for this piece of furniture. It entered my life the same time marriage did so has a natural starting point of sentimentality. So much of life has happened around our table; it’s seen many a high and plenty of lows.

For a few years, it never saw the light of day under my sister’s house while I sat at the tables of others in North America. Having the chance to study at Asbury Theological Seminary, we went. And weren’t disappointed. It was the combination of us asking the right kind of questions plus gifted Biblical scholars and theologians that hospitality kept appearing in the Scriptures. I now cannot understand holiness or the Trinity in terms other than hospitality, i.e., welcome of the Other.

What I learnt sitting at tables in lecture rooms dovetailed with what I learnt at dinner and coffee tables at a faith community called Communality^, with the likes of fellow students* at the time, and strangers in Michigan who hosted us during a summer internship. Ten years since we pulled into their driveway, they are still wonderful friends. We were just talking this week on the phone.

If I’m to model my life on that first century Jewish man who continues to puzzle and impress me, then hospitality is a value and practice of high priority. And if the dining table was the chosen space for Jesus to practice his hospitality, then I can use the space around our table for that too.

Our table was set up in what became the dining room at a rental in New Farm in 2002, and we set sail. We didn’t really chart a course; we weren’t sure where this kind of lifestyle would take us. All we knew is that the Spirit would have to animate the venture or else we’d just run out of puff. And we just tried to steer towards a destination where God’s kingdom was on earth as it is in heaven.

We weren’t out to convert people, so there was no underlying agenda in a friendship. I like this about mission and its departure point from traditional evangelism where a friendship was made with the purpose of turning him/her into a fully devoted follower of Jesus Christ. I’m more comfortable with trying to be a faithful witness and hoping that a friend can join the dots from me to my God and like what they see. And if no dot-to-dotting went on, then dang, we’d still be able to eat at our table together even if our gods were different.

That table of ours has seen many a face, plate, cup, pen, notebook, and candle. At it has sat so many people unlike ourselves as we learnt what it means to be hospitable neighbours to well people, unwell people, professionals, addicts, children, asylum seekers, immigrants, tradies, seniors, and the list goes on. In a small capacity we seemed to be a place to drop in when welfare places in the community had shut. Our city’s Lady Mayoress even awarded our attempts, but really I think it’s a tradition our grandparents’ generation seemed to be strong at – having a cuppa with a neighbour and not being aghast if a visitor didn’t phone beforehand.

In this space of offering hospitality, its mystery worked in me. Issues I only read or heard about now became close to home as they accompanied visitors who came over. Because those issues are attached to people, they are by their very nature social issues. In my proximity to people grappling with all sorts of difficulties, I saw how complexity wound itself through these issues. And I suspended judgment on things I probably would easily have had an opinion on before.

New words and roles like justice and advocacy emerged. Thanks to hospitality I moved from not knowing what I didn’t know, to knowing what I didn’t know, to the start of knowing. It only took several years, but that was ok. We weren’t planning on going anywhere in a hurry. This model of a faith community required us to be in a neighbourhood for the long haul.

But on a Saturday night in October 2009 around our endeared dining table, a guest in our home for the weekend put some questions on that table which, between the lines and unknowingly for him, whispered that it was time for me to once and for all address the elephant in the room.

^ theashram.blogspot.com    
* www.geoffandsherry.blogspot.com ; thegladdings.blogspot.com ; 
   temperance-girl.blogspot.com 

8 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / Introduce yourself here / Re: Intro

Started by cmellisor - Last post by cmellisor on: April 16, 2010, 12:51:51 PM

Simon,
Thanks for responding. I guess that I should share my story at some point. The short of it is that I was a church planting stratigest in Colorado, USA. After I read The Shaping of things to come, my view of church changed radically. The last church start I was involved with was called Matthews House and for a reason. If the traditional church had our group to show up, they may have been ushered out! It was a safe place for everyone no matter where you were on your spiritual journey. I have since left the ministry that I was apart of and now oddly feel as if I am in exile. The traditional, attractional model of church is all that you will find in the deep south of Alabama, USA. Believe me I have looked for something else. My wife and I have visited many churches and just can't go back to the form of church as we know it . We continue to stay in the word, minister to neighbors when we can and pray for our next move. Please pray that God will reveal our next move. I happened on this forum by pulling my old book out with the credits on the back. I am hoping to network with like minded followers and to find direction for our future in ministry. Thanks again for responding.

9 -  Welcome to the CRUCIBLE / Introduce yourself here / Re: Intro

Started by cmellisor - Last post by Simon on: April 15, 2010, 03:12:46 PM

Hi Charlie, welcome to the Forge forums and thanks for posting a little about yourself. You mention that you are not part of a church community at the moment. If there is any way we can encourage you and inspire you in the process we would love to do just that.

Looking forward to hearing more....

Blessings,
Simon Forge AU




10 -  Conversation Space / The 'Missional' conversation / Re: Are we addicted to method?

Started by Admin - Last post by cmellisor on: April 14, 2010, 02:02:16 PM

I don't know if addicted to method is as accurate as saying we are hard wired to method. As much as I wanted to prize myself as a ministry out of the box thinker, I found myself reverting to the traditional mode at times. I think it was because I was wired that way early on and probably because method is easier, I became lazy.

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